In today's episode, listen to Dawn Heel's story on how falling into the same old cycle of pain pills and neglect from doctors only led her down a path to worse uterine health. Listen in on how to navigate your way to a proper diagnosis and examples of what you should be asking in your doctor visits! Thanks for listening Uterinekind!
In 2016, Dawn Heels decided to seek medical care during her struggles with abdominal pains. After neglect from doctors and a few pain pills later, her condition only worsened over the years. Sound familiar? Listen to Dawn’s story to see if you’re experiencing the same old cycle of not being heard or properly treated. Learn how you can take control of your doctor’s visits by knowing what questions to ask and break the cycle from the start!
How informed are you really? Tune in to hear this women’s health study on how important uterine knowledge is to your health. Knowing the options for your body is a guaranteed pathway to securing your uterine health. That’s why here at Hello Uterus we are dedicated to bringing you the information and resources you deserve. Stay informed out there!
Lastly, we end on a high note that is out of this world! Look up to the skies Uterinekind!
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Carol:
When the vast majority of those suffering with a chronic uterine condition feel that it's normal, they've been conditioned to suffer. Dawn Heals makes us feel seen. The data says we've been misled. And if we can send a space telescope a million miles from from Earth, we can diagnose and treat fibroids. We can do that and more, starting now during Fibroid Awareness Month. I'm Carol Johnson, and this is Hello Uterus.
We're going to start this episode with a story written by Angela Johnson and published in the Route this week. The year is 2016. Dawn Heels, a UK resident, a black woman, and a lawyer. She went to her primary care doctor because of abdominal pain. The physician said it was likely related to her menstrual cycle, and that was that. Last I checked, menstrual cycle was not a diagnosis. But there dawn was. Over the next few weeks, it got worse. So she went back to the doctor, and then on that visit, that's when she got the old pain pill, elixir. But Don wasn't satisfied, so she went to the hospital and an ultrasound showed two fibroids. Mystery solved, right? Everything's cool. Don's done, right? No, not at all. They sent her back to her doctor, her primary care doctor, for game plan. Right? Well, if a hot water bottle means game plan, sure, because that's basically what she was told, to use a hot water bottle to ease her discomfort. For the next four years until 2020, she was offered no solution for the fibroids beyond pain meds. Why? Reminds me of a comment made by our first guest on Hello, Uterus. On the first episode, a gynecologic surgeon named Doctor Elizabeth Graul in Salt Lake City, Utah, said that getting a diagnosis for fibroids is easy. And I was floored by that because I've interviewed people who have spent years trying to get a diagnosis. I've interviewed people who had gone to the doctors multiple times to figure out, just like dawn, why their periods were so terrible, why they were in so much pain, and they didn't get a diagnosis. And it just stunned me that Dr. Garwell thought that the diagnosis was easy. But she's right. It is easy to get a diagnosis. It seems the hard part is getting physicians, hospitals, and insurance companies to care enough about your daily life to have a standardized care plan for fibroid diagnosis and treatment so that each woman doesn't have to have a bespoke unique experience. That's not where those types of experiences are really cherished. We actually really love when there's a methodical plan in place and we know that we're getting standardized care. We need to make that happen. But back to dawn. Over those four years, from 2016 to 2020, her symptoms got worse. She was bleeding heavily. The abdominal pain increased. She was bloated nauseous. This is no way to live. But there she was forging on practicing law, trying to get herself well, and forced to suffer for no reason. During a follow up appointment with her primary care doctor, it was suggested she see a fertility expert, and she did mention in the article that she was trying to conceive Don instead wisely asked for a referral to a gynecologist. It's almost as if they don't want to solve the problem here. They make it ultra complicated. Maybe we should go do this. How about a gynecologist? They're supposed to be the ones working on the uterus. Why do we go there? But anyway, she had to advocate to make that happen. A pelvic exam at the gynecologist in 2020 revealed that two fibroids had grown from four to 6 CM since she had her ultrasound at the hospital. That was the extent of that game plan. You've got the two fibroids. Oh, and they're growing. That's in 2020. Another year in for dawn 2021, and she's now in excruciating pain. She goes back to the same gynecologist for an exam and holds steady. I mean it. She now has six fibroids, and one is the size of a grapefruit. In one year, from two to six fibroids. From two fibroids that are 4 fibroids, one of which is the size of a grapefruit. Can we get this woman some help? This is five years. She suffered for five years. And they even knew that there were fibroids there, but there was this lazy, fair attitude like, oh, well, fibroids aren't life threatening. They're too small fibroids. She's symptomatic. Many people have fibroids that are asymptomatic. They don't know they have them. They don't cause any problems, no issues. Here's a person who is giving a list of symptoms that are super aggressive, also indicating that she cannot conceive, and she's trying, and there's just this wait and see approach. It's crazy to me. All the while, the condition is progressing. It's worsening. Again, doesn't seem logical to me. So, of course, now that she has six fibroids, one of which is the size of a grapefruit, laparoscopic surgery is not an option. Hysteroscopic surgery is not an option. Her option right now is to have an open myomectomy, large abdominal incision, and they go in and remove the fibroids. Could two fibroids at 4 CM be removed? Laparoscopically or historoscopically, probably, depending on where they're located. In the first episode of Hello Uterus, we talked about a procedure called a cessa, which, if the fibroids were not inside of the uterus and were instead growing within the walls of the uterus that could have been deployed, certainly would have been much more likely that she would have had more options. And I get that she might have needed follow on surgery if fibroids returned, but at least it would have been a minimally invasive surgery, and she wouldn't have had to suffer for five years. I can only assume that her symptoms were minimized. Her experience was dismissed. She wasn't listened to. She had to fight for this. She had to take time off of work for this which, as a lawyer, is ridiculously hard to do. The whole situation is so insane to me. The path to getting a fibroid diagnosis and treatment it's fraught with lots of potholes and friction and crummy experiences where we feel like we're complaining too much or we're being silly or we're being told it's normal. So we take that information in and then berate ourselves for complaining about something that's normal. It's not normal. People suffering with abnormal uterine bleeding are AUB which fibroids is a cause of abnormal uterine bleeding. They report quality of life scores below the 25th percentile of the general population. That is the bottom quarter. That's a really important stat because it suggests that this is a debilitating condition. Yet we hear stories over and over and over again about people experiencing all of the symptoms of fibroids and having an outrageously difficult time getting their symptoms taken seriously and getting their condition addressed. And when you hear that stat, 25th percentile of the general population that means someone that their quality of life sucks. And we just expect them to tolerate that. Well, we don't hear fibroids cause pain. They distort the uterus, which we talked about before. It's a hard muscle in its non pregnant state. So having a grapefruit sized tumor growing in a hard muscle you can imagine how painful that is. And let's also point out that there is no room in the pelvic area for a growth the size of a grapefruit. There is no room. And fibroids can multiply and growth can accelerate which would lead one to believe that it would be in the interests of the medical community to diagnose and treat the fibroids as early on as possible in their life cycle. Meaning when they become symptomatic so that they don't continue to grow and cause other complications including limiting the types of options that one has to remove the fibroids. They cause infertility, heavy bleeding, painful cramping. In addition to the pain of having internal organs compromised by these benign tumors they cause painful sex which causes one to not want to have sex which creates complications in relationships. Possibly likely, they cause constipation bladder pressure, frequent urination. They impact nerves, the spine. Their presence alone can be an indicator of being out of hormonal balance. We don't have the research that definitively tells us how hormones impact fibroids but we know that they do impact them. And being out of balance with our hormones, as we've learned can lead to depression, anxiety, stressed out adrenal glands overtaxing the endocrine system. All of this from fibroids. You're not imagining it if you're living with them. Maybe the dots haven't been connected for you before today or maybe people denied your experience or diminished your symptoms. Maybe you felt obligated to soldier through like we all do either out of just pure obligation or because we need to continue to work to survive and pay our bills keep our health insurance in a lot of cases, it's just there's such a negative impact on people's lives and on the loved ones who surround those living with fibroids. All that and the vast majority of time. Here's what we get. Hey, here's some pain pills. It's totally normal. There's nothing to be concerned about. Everything's okay, which I internalize as. Stop complaining. You're being really whiny right now, and you're like, the 25th woman that I've seen today, and I'm just really not up for it. So here's some pain pills, and you can ride it out. And the ride it out part says to me, I don't really treat fibroids. It's not a priority focus in my practice. So run along. Here you go. Is that really how one treats a system like the human body? A pain pill and a hot water bottle? If men had grapefruitsized tumors in their pelvic area with their pain be taken seriously, would someone care enough to want to see them live a better life, one without pain? And all the other complications of fibroids, including all the nonphysical complications, including being passed over for promotions, raises, getting fired, losing pay to lack of paid sick leaves, essentially hampered in every aspect of daily life. If men were hampered by a grapefruit sized tumor that impacted every aspect of their daily life, do you really think that there wouldn't be an aggressive move to relieve that person of the issue causing those problems? I mean, fibroids can lead to respiratory failure. It's due to the fibroids growing up and causing this thing called diaphragmatic compression, compressing your diaphragm and making it difficult for you to breathe. Okay? Fibroids can lead to respiratory failure. Can we take this stuff seriously? Can we please create a better path for people dealing with this condition? It would have been great for dawn that if she had received better care, that was condensed into a shorter time frame with a predictable methodical pathway specific to fibroids. Not like, oh, it's just your menstrual issues. No. A definitive diagnosis and then a real path, a real care plan that's standardized. If that had happened in Dawn's case, would she have had a better outcome? Well, I think we can say yes, because get this don's fibroid case that started out as two four centimer fibroids, first diagnosed in 20 16, 20 17, ended up in January of 2022 being oh, hold on for dear life. 16 fibroids in one year, the fibroids went from two six centimeter fibroids that were originally diagnosed at 4 CM. In one year, it went to 16 fibroids they removed from her uterus in that surgery. That is unconscionable. That takes somebody from the likelihood of having laparoscopic surgery to an open myomectomy. She may have had to return to have other fibroids taken out, but minimally invasive gynecologic surgery is preferred over open surgical procedures to wait five years. We see what happens. With a fibroid diagnosis, you go from something manageable to something that is only manageable with an open surgical procedure. And factor in those five years of suffering all of those missed experiences. So she had her surgery in January of 2022 and this is what she said since the operation, my periods have been a breeze. And now I realize that this is how it's supposed to be. Yes, heavy, horrible periods are not normal. Worth noting that the ultrasound did not pick up all the fibroids. I don't know why. Maybe the grapefruit sized one was obstructing the view. I can't imagine how distorted her uterus is and the problems that that caused in her body. But just keep in mind that when you do get an ultrasound, you may not see all the fibroids there. This type of patient experience is not exclusively UK thing. They have the National Health Service. It's universal healthcare. Clearly they have to start with a primary care physician, much like we do in the United States, in many cases with insurance. And she had to press to get to a gynecologist, and then even once at the gynecologist, it wasn't until she was in excruciating pain, not just pain, had to be excruciating for us to really step up and perform a surgical procedure to relieve that pain. So not just in the UK. This happens all around the world, and certainly in the United States. There's a lack of efficiency in the uterine care experience. We all start by saying my period is really bad, or I'm in a lot of pain, or I feel nauseous, or I'm constipated. We start at basically the same place. Most of us have the same experience, which is this long, drawn out process of begging to be taken seriously. Instead, what we could have is a standardized care plan for fibroids which moves efficiently from diagnosis to removal, including educating patients and keeping them informed of symptoms and how to connect the dots on those symptoms so that their memories and life experiences aren't stolen from them. When up to 80% of those with a uterus experience fibroids, there needs to be a better plan of action. And when up to 80% of black women with fibroids experience more and larger tumors, and also experience more and greater prejudice in health care and gaslighting with regard to their symptoms, we must do better. It's far past time to hear us. And in this Fibroid awareness Month, the first Fibroid awareness month that uterine kind has been around for and that Helen uterus has been around for, we want to use this moment to say that we are fired up and that we are not going to be quiet about fibroids and other chronic uterine conditions so that we can clean this kind of an experience up. Follow dawn. You can check her out on instagram. Dawn Heels. Heels is spelled like the shoe. H-E-E-L-S. She is super cool. Super forthright with her experience. And her experience is like a lot of our experiences with fibroids. So definitely checked on out. I'm glad that there was a happy ending to that story. And I mean, the 16th fibroid. So it's kind of like that moment in a movie where you're like, oh, no, not that. And then you're like, yay at the end because she was victorious. It's just sad that it had to be this dramatic experience, because it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. It should be like this simple give some fibroids. Here are some options. We want to remove them because you want to get pregnant. Fibroids can cause infertility, and they can also lead to miscarriages. And, oh, we're in the United States now, so miscarriages could mean that you might go to jail. So how about we get those fibroids taken care of? Right? I think that sounds like a plan. Oh, man. All right, well, you know that here at Hello Uterus. It always comes back to data. So when we come back from this break, the five reasons why getting a fibroid diagnosis is a marathon.
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Carol: To the journal. We go this time to the Journal of Women's Health and a study accessible at the National Library of Medicine titled An Altered Perception of Normal Understanding Causes for Treatment Delay in Women with Symptomatic Uterine Fibroids. It's a really interesting study. It's a qualitative, interview based study. It involves interviews with 60 women who qualified. Out of 124 women who were either approached or who offered to participate in the study, 50 out of the 60 still had symptomatic fibroids, while eight have had hysterectomies. All qualified participants had either been treated for fibroids or were still living with fibroids. This is the first study of this type, one that focuses on the personal experiences and beliefs of women. So it's about what they've been conditioned to believe and how that impacts their choices as they deal with fibroids. The study was published in 2016. 2016. I mean, what's the 40 or 50 years I procrastinate. Don't we all procrastinate? Just taking our sweet time getting around to study fibroids. All right, enough complaining. Let's just be glad that they did the study. So here are the five themes regarding why they delayed seeking treatment for fibroids. The primary reason the perception that their symptoms were normal. I wonder how that happens. Not at all. I don't wonder how that happens at all. I knew exactly how that happens. Another theme they had a low knowledge of fibroids. This lack of knowledge surrounding fibroids persisted among the study sample. Despite these people in this study being well educated, almost 70% had at least a four year degree. 86% of them were insured, and from a socioeconomical standpoint, 60% had an annual household income of at least $50,000. So in this study, they were perceived as having the ability to understand the information, the ability to access the information, and they were stable from an economic standpoint to be able to participate in seeking health care. But still, they had a low knowledge of fibroids. Also, they did not perceive themselves to be at risk for fibroids, which kind of sits snugly with having a low knowledge of fibroids. And even those who were aware of fibroids did not think that they were at risk, perhaps because their physician didn't raise that as a possibility. When you went in there and said, gee, I bleed through massive pads and tampons and I have excruciating abdominal pain and I'm constipated and, oh, gee, look at how bloated I am. My abdomen is like the size of a three month pregnant woman. What is going on here? Oh, you know, it's nothing. It's normal, right? So they're not getting educated in the place where they're supposed to get educated, and we know how complicated it is for physicians today, so I'm not throwing blame on anybody. Another theme they engaged in avoidance based coping strategies, like minimizing symptoms. I remember being so worked up over my period, and yet when I would sit down in front of my gynecologist, I just wanted to squish everything down into the fewest amount of words and I don't know, I went in defeated. I didn't go in thinking I was going to find a solution or I was going to be victorious, whatever that means. I went in defeated. And that certainly was my experience for a long time. So minimizing symptoms, we all do it all the time. And the other thing that was really wild is that they disassociated themselves from their fibroids. So they would refer to their fibroids as like, an alien or an invader or a void in their body, and that can't be good for self love. In fact, the study states that avoidance based coping has been found to increase the risk of psychological distress. Which makes sense. When we're in denial about something, it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist. So that the low level agitation and stress of knowing that on some level we are conscious of a problem and we're trying to shove it down. We all know that that never works out. It just doesn't work out. Eventually it's going to explode. So what's the takeaway? Your experience matters. It really does. Heavy, painful periods are not normal and are a symptom of fibroids. You have a right to be diagnosed and treated and like Don experienced, to return to a painfree life with a manageable, normal period. You are deserving of that. And your experience matters. And I repeat that because I really want you to hear those words. Your experience matters. And the only way somebody is going to know about it is if you can express your experience to them in the best way possible to inform them of what you're dealing with. Like, you don't have to be a hero. You don't have to be the good girl. You don't have to be the one who can handle everything. It's okay to go in, and it's okay to be mad too, especially if you've been at this for a while. And it's okay to ask questions. It's okay to say, before you go to the oral contraceptive route, I want to talk to you about what my desires are for any treatment that I participate in. And I want to know what your experiences with treatments involving fibroids. It's okay to ask questions and to put a physician on the spot to sell themselves to you as to why they're the best individual to treat you. It's your body. We scrutinize those who cut our hair. It's really okay. So your experience matters. And the other thing that we really want to share with you is don't delay seeking help with your period symptoms. A normal period does not flatten you. Cramps are not fun. It's not fun a couple of days before a normal five to seven day period might be a little heavy on the front end and then it tapers off, but it doesn't flatten you. Painful periods are not normal. And if you're thinking like many people, well, you know what? I want to conceive, so I'm just going to get pregnant and my periods will stop and I'll be closer to menopause and it's all going to work out. Well, that may not happen if fibroids are the cause because you may not get pregnant. And as we saw with Don's story, the longer you wait, the more difficult it is to get treated. So know what's in your uterus. That is a takeaway from both Dawn Story and the study. Know what's in your uterus. I want to talk just for a second about healthcare professionals right now. It's intense. I'm sure you've been reading the stories where normal situations that they deal with are completely upended right now. And they're having to check with lawyers about their treatment options. And they're calling pharmacies to order prescription medicine for treatments that are not abortion and they're being told that they cannot get them because the drug has a compound in it that could cause an abortion or that it is a cluster. It's a cluster out there. The Supreme Court did zero thinking ahead as to the impact on the health community from a process standpoint, on the healthcare professional community from a process standpoint delivering uterine care. So they're under a lot of pressure and it's very intense. So it's on us to be informed and to seek out information on chronic uterine conditions so that we are able to tell the difference between what is normal and what is not normal. We can't rely upon the medical community to educate us each individually on our uterus and the chronic conditions that plagued and the treatment options we can't they see 40 to 50 patients a day. We get 15 minutes with the maximum. And you know, when you hear those stories over and over again, five days a week for years, it's likely that they're not super dialed into what your personal experiences and they're not teasing out from you the story of your symptoms that enables them to connect the dots. So I want you to just go in having a full understanding of what you're up against. And the cool thing is that if you are educated and this isn't I don't mean like going getting your BS in nursing, it's not that intense. It can be done. We're going to help you. You go in educated and you can help guide them. Right? So go in. I get that. I know birth control pills are an option for this doctor. Thank you for sharing that with me. Can you tell me about some of the minimally invasive procedures that you do? How about some of the new medications that are out on the market? I'm interested in learning about them, but I'm concerned about the side effects. How do you generally treat fibroids in your practice, Doctor? And if you're even prediagnosis, all of my symptoms line up with fibroids. So I would like an ultrasound. Let's start there. Does that seem like a good step to you, Doctor? And just leave that conversation? You trust your gut. Hopefully we're showing you the difference between normal and not normal and encouraging you not to minimize your symptoms. And it's not done to pressure you into any treatment pathway, but rather to help you get a diagnosis so that you can keep an eye on it if they're really small and you can tolerate what's going on, but also so that you can get ahead of it. Because as we saw with dawn, they grow, they multiply, they're like gremlins, but not cute at all. They're not cute. Know that others have experienced what you're going through and that there are doctors out there who are trained and really passionate about fibroids and about uterus preserving minimally invasive treatments for the removal of them. So that's a tip to seek out physicians who have been quoted in articles talking about fibroids in your local community or who really focus on fibroids on their website and give you detailed information, or when you ask them about fibroids and how they treat them and what their experience has been with their patient community, you get good information back from them. You don't get silenced. Then you know that you're in a place where you're going to get some help. It's near impossible to do this alone, but you don't have to. We're here. You don't kind is here. It's our sole focus to get you trained up on your anatomy, confident about presenting your symptoms to doctors and fully schooled in chronic uterine conditions. This, I promise you, will help you advocate for your body. We've got tools coming for you this fall. The chronic uterine app is coming. I'm so excited. We're really excited to introduce it to you. So in this fibroid awareness month, I hope that that information has been helpful. I hope that those of you who are listening, who are experiencing fibroids know that there are options and that we're going to give you the questions to ask and the ways to navigate the path to help get yourself better. We'll be right back with ending on a high note.
So the James webb space telescope dropped some universe bling on us this week from 1 million mile away. A million a million miles away. A telescope. A space telescope. You've probably seen it. It looks like octagons kind of stitched together. It's the size of a tennis court, and it's three stories tall. I mean, that is a big telescope. It's huge. But it's a million miles away. I can't get over that. A million miles. It's farther than man has ever been, certainly woman. We'll get there. Well, I don't know. Actually, we're not going to get there. We don't want to get there. I think it's really pretty to look at, but I bet it's really difficult to survive out there. But this telescope is just wild. You need to see these images. It can view the universe in longer wavelength infrared light. That's its sweet thing. So it's able to see things that the human eye can't see, not just because it's far away, but also because it's wavelengths that our eyes don't pick up. And it will be capable of seeing some of the most distant galaxies in our universe. In fact, it will be able to see almost the whole way back to the beginning of the universe around 13.7 billion years ago. I just think about, like, just a couple of hundred years ago, if we told someone that this was going to be possible, their minds would be blown. My mind is blown. I can't believe that we were able to do it. We it's like when your sports team wins and you're like, we won. They're like, what? You didn't play? We did this. We got the web. Telescope up and running? No, we didn't. But I love checking it out. Webtelscope.org has zoomable images of the first dispatch and they are just gorgeous. Staring at them alone makes me feel better. It does like less agitated, in awe, just taking a moment to kind of step out of this insane planet that we're on right now and skip on out to space for a while. Yeah, definitely. It's also looking at them, you're like, yeah, we're totally not alone. There's just no way. And also how tiny we are, just not even in terms of our size, but how tiny we are in time. Like we're just a little blink. Just a tiny little blink. It kind of makes me feel a little bit more light hearted and I don't know, maybe able to focus on the right stuff more easily. It's like I kind of want to make my time here count more when I look at all that gorgeousness. And I mean, if you haven't seen these images, they're insane. It looks like just a frothy gorgeous, beautiful boudoir full of stars and it's all for us, kind of. Well, really. I mean, it's the universe. So when you're laying on your back on the Earth and you're looking up at the sky and you see like this flat black canvas with these little pin pricks of light in it, just remember that it doesn't really look like that. It looks 50 gazillion million times cooler and more beautiful. So check out the images. Web Telescope.org that's with two B's in web. So cool. Must have been so thrilling to see them come in. We have some exciting news, so you have to come back next week when we launch our Beauty Heroes Clean Up My Act Give Back, our monthly giveaway of a beauty box, a treat to thank you for being here and to inspire you to pay attention to what you put on and in your body. So details next week on that. And if you didn't hear the podcast with Jeannie Jarno, the CEO and founder of Beauty Heroes, which was during the July 4 week, go back and listen to it. She gives you so much information about endocrine disrupting chemicals and about clean beauty and what to look out for. And we're really excited because we're going to spoil you. This is just the first. We're going to be doing this every month. Giving away a beauty heroes clean up my act. Give back. But we're going to spoil you in other ways too, I promise. Next week. Also hear me. Hear me. Returns So send in your questions to hello at hello. 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And a huge thanks to the team at Uterinkind who is having a blast building this app. And all we do all day is keep you in our minds and in our hearts. We just kind of run around and think, like, what do they need? What do they need? Isn't it nice to know somebody's doing that? We're just really excited. It's gorgeous and it's packed with tools you can use, and we can't wait to get it to you. And thank you, angel, for everything you do, which includes producing our show. But trust me, she does so much more than that. You rock. You really do. And come back next week for more insights into the fibroid patient experience as we continue to honor Fibroid Awareness Month. I don't really just actually want to celebrate you. You deserve it. You deserve to feel great. So stay close and we'll get you on the right path. Until next week, be well, be cool and look up.
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